Thursday, February 29, 2024

1983: When The Ramones Conquered Des Moines

Thirty years ago today (June 1, 1983) the Ramones rocked the revolving banquet room atop the Holiday Inn in downtown Des Moines. As one might expect, it was a concert that would be talked about years afterward, and it was the initial footprint of punk rock's influence in Des Moines.

The band was on the back end of a rigorous eight day run. Having played Omaha the night before, they stormed into Des Moines early and booked a room at the Holiday Inn on the corner of N.E. 14th Street and Euclid Avenue (now where Community State Bank sits). Ironically, it was there they stayed, several miles away from the Holiday Inn that was housing their gig. The band was just a few months out from having fired drummer Marky Ramone because of alcohol abuse. Richie Ramone  joined the group for this tour and subsequently stayed with the Ramones until 1987 when Clem Burke (Blondie) intermittently joined the band as Elvis Ramone.

After checking into the Holiday Inn, the band made an appearance at Music Circuit, a local record store that moonlighted as a concert promotion company. Hundreds of people lined up to meet these punk rock legends, and asked them to sign everything from record albums to baseballs.

A number of the people that would later shape the Des Moines underground scene were there. The following are accounts of that day from people who attended the show, including two members of Universal Will To Become, the local band that opened for the Ramones. It's interesting how starkly contrasted their experiences were.  One thing is for certain, however... After this show, punk rock finally had a grip in Des Moines, Iowa.


Johnny and Joey Ramone 
Eric Coleman: They did a record signing at Music Circuit that afternoon. It was nice to get It's Alive signed. Mostly I remember that was when they started playing everything too fast, started to lose all definition in their songs. Richie was an OK drummer, but didn't quite have the chops to hold them together. Joey couldn't read the note on his monitor so he didn't know where he was or what the name of the records store was.

It was nice to see them, I wish I had seen them in their prime though.

Local band Universal Will To Become opened. One of the Ames punks talked about them getting booed, not realizing that he and his friends were the only people booing them.

Tim Johnson: My band's name was "Universal Will To Become". I worked for a record store called Music Circuit. The store's owner, Steve White, had a production company that brought the Ramones to Des Moines. I was honored that he allowed my band to open. We had been a 4 piece until the other guitarist quit the band unexpectedly some weeks before the gig. We had to scramble to come up with other ways to play our music with just drums, bass guitar and guitar. Maybe it wasn't that successful as we were not well received! I think that people just really wanted to see the Ramones and didn't care about the opening act. 

The sound man also treated us abominably. I couldn't hear myself in the monitors and when I asked him from the stage about it he just blew me off! Our set was short as the crowd just seemed to get ugly. The place was absolutely packed.


You have to understand: The Ramones were heroes to me. In fact I wouldn't have gotten into music if it wasn't for them. So this was quite a thrill to be given the opportunity to open for them. Unfortunately, I came away from that experience very humbled. They say never meet your heroes; well, if I had actually been able to meet the Ramones I'm sure I would have hated them. They didn't even invite us backstage or said a single word to us. But hey, they played great, at least what I can remember of the show! I hit the bar after my awful experience onstage and proceeded to get quite drunk, so my memory of the rest of the night is hazy.


In 1983 the Ramones toured in support of Subterranean Jungle
Notice Marky sitting alone isolated from rest of band.
Mark Penner: I was in Tim Johnson's (guitarist for The Law and owner of Vinyl Fetish) ever-changing band called Universal Will to Become. I played bass in the in the 3 piece rock band incarnation and Tony McKendry played drums. We opened for The Ramones at that show. Earlier in the day they did an in-store autograph session at Music Circuit. I remember they were very friendly and much larger and uglier in person. I talked with Johnny for awhile and tried to get him to go to George the Chili King with us, but he declined. I also remember that somebody brought a baseball for them to sign, which they really got a kick out of.

The show itself was a lot of fun. We didn't get a great response, but contrary to some accounts I've read, we didn't get booed. The Ramones were really on that night. I've seen them since this was easily the best of the shows I'd seen. I also remember them being very loud. The only band I'd seen up to that point that were louder was Husker Du, and I'd been in ATOY and we were definitely loud. (Big Black was the loudest I'd seen but that was a couple years later) Looking back, that show was when the scene in Des Moines changed. Before that show the "punk" scene was very small, very diverse and very tight knit. Afterwards a lot more people arrived and the scene began to splinter into cliques. At least that was how I saw it. I left Des Moines a few months later, so my impressions might not be 100% correct.


Dirk William Newton:  I almost hit Joey with my car as he walked across Euclid going to Village Inn. My wife couldn't believe how tall he was. Typical New Yorker! He dodged me and cussed. He made it to the median in like two steps. They played at Top of the Tower and stayed at the Holiday Inn on East 14th. 

5 Questions With Mike Score of a Flock of Seagulls

While Mike Score's name might not ring a bell on the surface, he fronted one of the most popular bands in the world during the 1980s.

A Flock of Seagulls originated in Liverpool in 1979. The name itself, according to Mike, comes from "Toiler on the Sea," a song by the Stranglers. He, along with his brother Ali on drums, Francis Maudsley on bass and Willie Woo on guitar practiced in the space above the hair salon that Mike worked at. Paul Reynolds eventually replaced Woo, and a new genre was substantiated. 

A Flock of Seagulls began to play gigs and eventually released a few singles through Bill Nelson's Cocteau label. "It's Not Me Talking" garnered moderate air play throughout the United Kingdom, and "Telecommunication" became a favorite in the British club scene. It was "Telecommunication" that got the attention of a major label, and in 1982 the Seagulls released their self-titled debut through Jive Records. Their third release, "I Ran (So Far Away)" received major play on the relatively new cable TV show, MTV. This exposure propelled the Seagulls to world-wide fame. 

"I Ran" climbed to number one in Australia and hit the top ten in both the United States and New Zealand. The band also hit the world charts with "Space Age Love Song" in 1982. A Flock of Seagulls continues to be immensely popular in the United Kingdom.

Today Mike Score lives in Brevard County, Florida along the Indian River. He still owns a house in Liverpool. Aside from occasionally touring with the Seagulls, Mike has also embarked on a solo career. His latest single, "All I Wanna Do" will be released through Right Track/Universal on February 25th.


Mike Score today.


What are you up to these days? Are you touring? Solo or with the Seagulls?

I'm writing songs and touring with A Flock of Seagulls which is always great fun. I would love to do a tour with my solo stuff but we will see on that one.


Personally, what's been the biggest challenge you have faced as a professional musician?


Well, not being a great player is always a problem. I 'm not any kind of trained musician so I just make it up as I go along. That suits me fine for writing but sometimes I wish I could lay down some great lead lines,  but I just don't have the technique. But I get by.


As a pioneer of a genre, who were your musical influences?


Musical influences:  The Beatles, The Stones, Ultravox, The Cars. Marvin Gaye, Pink Floyd, Bowie, and any thing I consider a great song from country to heavy rock to life itself - to my own feelings, movies, TV shows - absolutely everything is an influence really - even just some thing someone says can send your mind on a trip that ends up coming out in a song a few years or days later.


A lot of people do not realize that the self-titled debut album of A Flock of Seagulls is a concept album about alien abduction. How did the band come up with this concept?


The first SEAGULLS album was initially influenced by Sci-Fi. It was what we were into at the time - watching movies like ALIEN or FIRE IN THE SKY - we had a song called "Fire In The Sky" too - it was a great time as Sci-Fi was just getting into its real stride then and more and more people were starting to believe in aliens and space.


Imagine you are stranded on an island. Name 5 records that you'd hate to be without?


Five records. Probably... The Beatles' White Album - I never tire of that one. And Abbey Road too, and Dark Side Of The Moon. The other two I'd have to sift through a lot of stuff to decide.


What is your strangest childhood memory?


Strange childhood memory... I was walking across a railway bridge not on the pavement but up on the wall I got about half-way over, looked down and fell off. I landed on the rails probably 15 ft or so below and i just remember thinking what the fuck, how did this happen? I still haven't worked it out.  I did get a big cut on my forehead for my pains - but I have often gone back and looked down from that bridge and I still can't work out how I fell off. I guess I was just a stupid kid.



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